Last week I was interviewed by Marlene Narrow for her podcast. This is the second time I’ve been on her show and I requested that I be able to to talk about the plight of Billy and Tina and how her listeners can help them. I am hoping that all the people back east who follow her podcast will call and email L A City Council president, Harris- Dawson, and, as our friend Councilmember Blumenfield has asked us to do, keep the pressure on Harris-Dawson from people in LA, California, and all over the country to bring Motion 25-0446 to the floor for a vote to send our elephants to a sanctuary. We want them to know that thousands of people are waiting and watching, and rooting for the LA City Council to do the right thing. If they do, it will be a win-win for everybody, especially for Billy and Tina.
Thank you, Marlene, for this opportunity!

Listen to the replay at the link above (29 minutes and 19 seconds, audio .mp3). Thank you. Vegan Nation features an interview with Britt Lind, president of Kindness and Science in Action. Tuesday, July 22, 2025. WCUW 91.3 FM 4 PM EDT Worldwide online at: wcuw.org/listen. Hosted by Marlene Narrow, Worcester, Massachusetts, USA. PHOTOS & PHOTOS We’re in The LOBE!
Topics include anti-vivisection, Deep Veganism, and efforts to free the elephants, Billy and Tina (formerly at Los Angeles Zoo, now at Tulsa Zoo, Oklahoma) to an elephant sanctuary in USA.
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